KANNADA SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT – What is the future
Posted by egovindia on August 7, 2006
Subj: Re: Fwd: KANNADA SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT – What is the future
Date: 5/31/2004 10:51:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time
To: firstname.lastname@example.org, NovaMed
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In a message dated 5/31/2004 6:53:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time, firstname.lastname@example.org writes:
Mr. V. M. Kumaraswamy
I have received all the mails. As I look into these emails only from Office I couldn’t reply to your mails in time. I sincerely feel that I am answering to your queries. However, please revert back for any further clarifications. I affirm that all the informations provided by me are factuals based on the documents available with me.
V. M. K : You have written so clearly about GoK adopting the Standards for kannada in Karnataka State. IS this all true what you have written ?
Arasan : GoK (Kannada and Culture department) has announced a Kannada keyboard layout as a uniform keyboard layout (which is referred as standard keyboard layout or KGP layout) without any study. The uniform keyboard layout was announced on 4-2-99.
It is to note that the typing method followed in the manual typewriter is based on the graphemic approach while the Uniform keyboard announced by the GoK is based on the phonemic approach. It means that these two methods of typing are completely different and a user has to unlearn the one to use the other.
The brutality is that all the typists who are now put into operate computers have to unlearn their typing knowledge and learn the uniform method. GoK is still appointing typists and stenographers based on the qualification of typing method based on the manual typing method which is followed in the diploma courses conducted by Directorate of Technical Education and various other institutes and Universities. This is a grave mistake of GoK and wastes precious study time of thousands of students.
GoK appointed KGP as a certifying agency on 4-2-99 to certify the Kannada software intended to purchase by the departments of GOK. KGP has abused its power to promote/favour some of the Kannada software.
Kannada software users were facing problems of Non-portable Kannada data created by using various Kannada software, which is based on the proprietory encoding adopted by various Kannada software developers due to various issues of Copyright and IPR. To ensure portability of Kannada data created among various Kannada software users GoK has announced a standard vide G.O maa.tham.e 6 nee.sam.v 2000 for glyph encoding and guidelines to be adopted in the Kannada softwares. As per this G.O certification is a must for any Kannada software for its use in GoK departments. Alongwith the standard glyphs, GoK has also listed further requirements for a Kannada software, such as conversion utility to convert the data created using the existing Kannada software. Through its G.O, GoK has restricted the Kannada software developers to use only the standard glyphs as announced in the G.O. However, GoK has adopted uncertified, non standard NUDI in its e-Governance projects. Use of non-standard glyphs has nullified the very purpose of standard and has made all other Kannada software as incompatible and forcing the GoK user departments to use only Nudi. Enforcing of Nudi is also ensured because of implementation of Nudi in the Secretariat network which connects all the departments of GoK.
V. M. K : We did not know that GoK sanctioned fund of 30.55 lakhs to develop various Kannada Software. So from your letter it looks like KGP was supposed to do these? Did KGP do there job in completing the development of Kannada Software? Why KGP is delaying in completing the jobs that are approved by GoK? DO YOU HAVE ANY ANSWERS or DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS TO COMPLETE THE TASK OF GOK ?
Arasan : Eventhough KGP has certified some of the Kannada software, it didn’t disclose the number of certified Kannada software to GoK. On 31-1-2001 KGP got sanctioned funds to the tune of Rs2,92,000/- in the guise to develop a Kannada software to test and evaluate the Kannada software developed by other Kannada software developers. This software was released as Kalitha. GoK has started installing Kalitha in the computers of GoK’s user departments in the guise of helping the user departments to test and evaluate the Kannada software they use. Please note that as per the G.O user departments are bound to use only the certified Kannada software. As a first step to monopolise the Kannada software, KGP has twisted the requirement and acted on its self ambition to monopolise the Kannada software and guided the GoK to install Kalitha and to distribute FREE (but KGP sold Kalitha and sells Nudi for Rs.100/=. Nudi is not KGP’s property).
On the success of Kalitha, KGP approached GoK with proposals for Twenty two products. GoK accepts 16 proposals and sanctions funds to the tune of Rs.27.65 lakhs vide G.O maa.tham.e 234 a.da.v 2001 dated 27.12.2001. Following is the breakup of the cost and list of proposals for which GoK sanctioned funds.
1. To update Kalitha as per the requirements – Rs.90,000/-
2. Sorting as per Kannada alphabetic order – Rs.50,000/-
3. Indexing as per Kannada alphabetic order – Rs.1,00,000/-
4. Word check for Kannada office – Rs.50,000/-
5. Find and Replace – Rs.25,000/-
6. Additional fonts – Rs.1,00,000/-
7. Unicode version of Kalitha (Nudi) for MS Windows- Rs.2,00,000/-
8. Grammer check – Rs.6,00,000/-
9. Unicode version of Kalitha (Nudi) for Linux- Rs.3,00,000/-
10. Converter to convert from ISCII to Unicode and Unicode to ISCII and filters and converters to convert data from various software fonts – Rs.1,50,000/-
11. Kannada Office (StarOffice) – Word processor, Spreadsheet, Presentation, database – Rs, 5,00,000/-
12. LOGO software in Kannada – Rs.5,00,000/-
13. Address book – FREE
14. Kannada Kali – FREE
15. Akshara kali Ganitha kali – Rs.50,000/-
16. Accounting software – Rs.50,000/-
V. M. K : You also have written that GoK is not using the standards that they have adopted and also about the portability of Kannada Software. Do you know who is advising GoK on these matters ? It looks like reading from your letter KGP is responsible for this ? IS KGP is the entity retained by GoK ? Can you write to me who were involved from the begining in KGP to do the KANNADA SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT WORK? Please list all the names you know. I know some of them and I am copying this letter to them.
Arasan : Presently GoK is promoting only KGP. All the Kannada software developers have become jobless. The present situation is very grim for Kannada on computers as all the Kannada software developers have withdrawn from Kannada software development.
A need for a society was felt during 1995, As a sequel to this urge a seminar was organized at SBI training center near National college. GoK has organized a two seminar during 1997 at MS buildings to promote Kannada on computers. This event was a turning in the field of Kannada software development. The organizers have shown favouritism to some developer and ditched others. Further, Srinatha sastry and Narasimha Murthy fooled people around and consolidated their position and formed a dubious society during 1999 and KGP was registered with registrar of societies on 17-5-99. However, KGP has not bothered to file any returns with the registrar of societies.
Eventhough I don’t have complete list, the partial list includes the following:
Somashekar – NAL
Srinatha sastri – NAL
Narasimhamurthy – SBI
Shri Ganesh – HRD consultants
Sheshadri- System Analyst KSRTC
Prakash – MS Ramiah school of Advanced studies
Panditharadhya – Reader Mysore University
As my knowledge goes, now, due to internal differences some of the initial founder members are thrwn out of KGP.
Pavanaja – Vishwakannada
Anand – Cyberscape/Acess
Rajan – Ex Chief Scretary GoK
Sathyanarayana – Employed at KIDWAI
I don’t have the contact numbers/email IDs of the above people. A programmer from Tally is involved in the development of NUDI. Pavanaja was also associated with the initial versions of NUDI.
Eventhough KGP has adopted K.P Rao’s keyboard layout, he (K.P Rao) doesn’t agree with the way the standard keyboard layout was formulated.
V. M. K : You also raised a question, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE for GoK in implementing its e-Governance projects based on the non-standard glyphs ignoring the much needed portability ? Does KGP know the answers for this ? WHO DID THIS ?
You are also asking, Why should KGP develop a non-standard Nudi? Why Nudi is not in comfirmity with the Govt guidelines? These are questions that are to be answered by KGP.
Who were involved in KGP from the begining ? Can you list the names please. GoK must have the names of people involved in KGP. Before awarding the projects and funds to KGP, GoK must have checked the background of KGP Executives and their Experience in Developmental work related to KANNADA SOFTWARE. Please write in detail about this.
Arasan : In all its reality KGP is not qualified for developing Kannada software on the following grounds:
1. KGP was not existing for three years prior to sanctioning funds.
2. KGP has not developed any software prior to sanctioning of funds.
3. KGP is a certifying agency. A certifying agency itself can’t enter into development of competitive products which they are supposed to certify as it is most illogic like a referee, umpire or an examiner himself taking the competition by himself.
V. M. K : WHY BARAHA was not adopted by GoK ? Why did they adopt NUDI ? Can you shed some information on this please.
Arasan : Way back in 1997, we have offered our software free of cost for GoK use. Srinatha sasthry is the key person who blocked our software and probably Baraha as well. We have also obtained server space during 1997 from the server of National University of Singapore to host web pages related to Kannada literature and culture. GoK through department of Kannada and culture got prepared some material for hosting. However, Srinatha sasthry influenced Directorate of Kannada and Culture not to host the pages because, as those pages were prepared with our software which was not certified. The materials prepared was got wasted.
V. M. K : Do you have list of all the development KGP was supposed to do that was given by GoK ?
How much funds for each project aloted by GoK ? What is the status of each project ?
Does KGP has capability to finish what GoK has awarded to KGP?
Do you know who are all involved in KGP ? If you have any info on Their names, email addresses, phone numbers and other information, PLEASE provide them. We really appreciate this.
Why is that KGP is not able to deliver these products ?
Arasan : KGP doesn’t have any expertise in developing software. KGP has developed Nudi in a clandestine manner. As KGP is the certifying agency, all the Kannada software developers have submitted their software. KGP gained inner details by means of demonstration and discussions etc with developers (please note that GoK has not disclosed any details on developing their Kannada software Nudi). KGP pirated the fonts submitted to it by various Kannada software developers.
V. M. K : Why KGP is getting into NEW PROJECTS without finishing these what they have taken from GoK ? Have you seen their website? They have so many things on the website.
Arasan : As per the G.O to sanction funds to the tune of Rs.27.65 lakhs KGP has been requested to develop all the required Kannada software and to maintain them from time to time.
KGP has monopolized the Kannada software field and the future of Kannada software is now waiting for the grace of KGP!
You can contact me any time regarding Kannada software. Infact I admire too much to see your anxiety and curiosity about the Kannada software development.
My residence number is 23110291 I will be available on this number except during office hours or being away from office. As I use my mobile phone rarely, I don’t keep the phone always on.
With warm regards,
Dear Mr. N. Anbarasan,
Thanks for reply. I am forwarding your reply email to I request all of you to read the email reply of Mr. N. Anbarasan which is at the end of this email. I personally request all of you who are getting this email letter copy to write your comments, IF you disagree on what it has been written here. Please give the reason. You are the first one who has replied for my email.
I have not received any reply from Mr. Srinatha Sahastry or Dr. Pandithardhya or Mr. G. N. N. Murthy of KGP. I forgot to send my first email to Dr. Pavanaja. This time I am sending this copy of the email to him. I hope Dr. Pavanaja can shed some information on this, SINCE he was involved with KGP from the begining.
I used to see Pavanaja’s email(email@example.com) on KGP website.
So it shows that PAVANAJA should know more about KGP than any one else. If KANNADIGAS go and look at this URL http://www.ganakaparishat.org/contactus.htm they will know the whole story. This was the first website of ganakaparishat which was registered by Dr. U. B. Pavanaja and maintained by Pavanaja. Here it shows that all the things that were done in GANAKAPARISHAT at the advise of PAVANAJA. It also shows PAVANAJA’s email of VISHVAKANNADA.com. NOW PAVANAJA is no longer with KGP. This does not mean that I am supporting any one or two KANNADIGAS. All I am trying to get answers from different responsible, trustworthy, truthtelling kannadigas about KANNADA SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT in Karnataka State. I wrote an email letter to Mr. Rajeev Chawla Secretary to Govt. (e-Governance) & Special Secretary to Gov. and it did not go. It bounced back. Also I have written an email letter to I T Secretary and I T Director. I hope I get replies from them. Once I get the reply I will copy to all of you. By reading your email it shows that there are no opportunities for other KANNADIGAS to DEVELOP KANNADA SOFTWARE. You are writing that KGP is monopolising this. If this is the case all Kannada Software Developers including you can file a complaint with Lokayuktha of GoK. You have written that KGP is a Certifying Agency for GoK. Does KGP using their close proximity to GoK, abuse the other KANNADIGAS who are Developing Kannada Software professionals? How many Kannada Software Programs were presented to KGP for certification and recomendation to GoK ? Do we have a list ? How many of them are certified by KGP and do we have a list ? Are you writing that Kannada software developers have withdrawn from Kannada software development just because of KGP being promoted by GoK ? IS this what you are telling ? IS this good for KANNADA ? Does all GoK Departments such as PWD, Education, Law, Labor, Revenue and others use the GoK Kannada Software Standards adopted by GoK for their work in their departments?
How it is being done now? IS KGP helping these Departments in anyway in doing this ?
How are these departments operating now ? Do you know how much funds KGP has received for it,s work from GoK.
Do we have an account of it? Can you let all of us know ?
Why KGP blocked your software ? Did KGP give any reasons ?
You say that Mr. Srinatha Shastry bolcked it ? Is this a fact ?
KGP did this becuase they wanted to get the contract from GoK ?
Did you work with KGP after this incidence ?
Do you have any more information that you can write to us regarding Kannada Software Development in Karnataka State?
Please write in detail.
I will write another letter in detail once I get replies from KGP and It’s Executives.
If any of you have questions on this, write to me.
V. M. Kumaraswamy, MBA.,
CEO, Nova Group